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Brazilian Stadium Collapse-7 Die

Clipped to the Drawing Board by Tony Elmasri  

The famous quote was something along the the lines of "Some people think that football is a matter of life or death - but it's much more than that"

However for 7 Brazilian soccer fans the quote tragically came true as a section of the stands collapsed at a stadium which had been criticized for its crumbling infrastructure, sending the victims plunging to the ground from the highest bleachers.
The victims fell 49 feet through a 10-foot wide hole in the concrete stands of the Fonte Nova stadium in the coastal city of Salvador, Bahia state secretary of sports Nilton Vasconcelos told the official Agencia Brasil news agency. Several people were also injured

How safe do you feel when attending a game at your local stadium ? Or when travelling and sampling the local customs?,  How old is the Stadium ? When did it last get fully checked over by a competent Structural Engineer.  

The structural integrity of the stadium may be at issue or simple controls like crowd management  at events can be a concern to some

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Jonno (92) Senior board member | 2007-12-05 03:49:09
large groups of people crowded together at sports (or other venues) can always be a recipe for disaster. - in this case it was a stand collapse - the attached videos details how deadly fires can be in these environments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB3v8zMjbNE

http://www.fugly.com/view_video.php?viewkey=48cca24ac51ee4b0e797

nobody ever expects it to happen - but sometimes - it does - the big issues with fire are just how quickly they catch and spread - a pretty frightening experience ( which can be deadly)
Zara () Newbie | 2007-12-05 03:53:22
as a structural engineer I just can't help long hard looks at all types of buildings and public arenas in particular - How safe ? - sometimes you just have to close your eyes and walk on
Jaqui () Newbie | 2007-12-05 03:58:02
my particular area is OH&S and its not just the structural side that causes issues - many times it's just a matter of crowd management and planning - I know what you mean - a bit of forethought - get some barriers in place get some people at the strategic points - get some training to the guys in the front line - simple stuff but in many cases it just doesn't happen - personally I'm surprised that there aren't more incidentds
Dicko () Newbie | 2007-12-05 04:01:28
sometimes - you've got to live life on the edge - if being in a big crowd is the most dangerous part of your life experience - you not living - get out there and get a life - take a few risks - get the adrenalin flowing
Jaqui () Newbie | 2007-12-05 04:11:29
when I "live life on the edge" I want to know what the risks are and what precautions are in place for my personal safety - if you want to close your eyes and walk out into a stream of traffic and "hope" that you don't get hit - go for it -
me, I want to know that I will wake up tomorrow - in one piece.
bill (73) Senior board member | 2007-12-05 16:53:32
in response to the comments from Jaqui, uncontrolled crowds and panic can be can be quite devestating
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/15/newsid_2491000/2491195.stm
this link takes you to a page which covers the Hillsborough soccer stadium crush in the UK and it also links with some other crush/crowd disasters. It sounds impossible to me that so many lives could be lost in a situation like this - but it happened as did the others -so yes - this is certainly an area which needs to be constantly reviewed at large sporting events or any large gathering of people
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